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alura
Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:23:07 am
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La meccanica (motore e trasmissione) e' quella della Impreza STi... e non aggiungo altro  Shocked Shocked Shocked Grin



Based on Subaru Impreza STi

Prodrive has unveiled P2, its unique two-seater sports car, which has gone from concept to reality in just nine months.

P2 is a fully working car featuring Prodrive?s latest technology and which has been entirely designed, engineered and built by the motorsport and automotive specialist at its operations at Banbury and Warwick in the UK.

P2 was the idea of Prodrive chairman and chief executive, David Richards, who wanted to create something that used the skills of every part of the business and demonstrated the company?s capabilities.

He said: "What we created is P2, a unique two-seater sports car, which has gone from concept to reality in just nine months and which is the perfect manifestation of what happens when our inspirational ideas combine with our innovative approach."

Prodrive?s philosophy behind the design of the car was practical performance. Weighing just 1100 kg and with a power to weight ratio of more than 350 bhp/tonne, P2 is expected to reach 100 kph from standstill in under four seconds and carry on to 280 kph. Yet, despite the focus on weight reduction, P2 has all the comforts of any modern car, with a six speaker stereo system, power assisted steering and electric windows.

P2 uses a modified Subaru Impreza STi engine and all wheel drivetrain, which incorporate two of Prodrive?s innovative technologies to enhance performance ? ALS (Anti-Lag System) and ATD (Active Torque Dynamics).

The two-litre flat-four engine is fitted with Prodrive?s ALS . This has been derived from the same system currently used on the Prodrive-designed Subaru World Rally Car, but modified for use on the road. ALS can keep the turbo on boost at low engine speeds, giving the car immediate throttle response and improved performance by using more of the engine?s 575 Nm of torque throughout the rev range

To use this power more effectively, Prodrive?s ATD system is fitted to P2?s drivetrain. It uses an active centre and active rear differential to control the torque split between the front and rear of the car and across the rear axle to optimise the car?s handling characteristics. For example, should the car begin to understeer while on power, then more torque will be pushed to the rear wheels, while if it began to oversteer then drive is sent to the front of the car, balancing it in all situations P2?s exterior and interior styling were created by Peter Stevens, who has worked with Prodrive on numerous road car and motorsport projects. His team produced a full scale clay model of the car to develop the styling and from this P2?s composite body panels were formed.

The P2 chassis was originally based on a Subaru R1 (a four seat mini car), which was completely reengineered to give P2 its coupe styling and to accommodate the new engine and drivetrain.

Every part of Prodrive has been involved in the development of P2 from its motorsport and automotive technology divisions. Prodrive?s chassis, engine and drivetrain and electronics departments worked with its in-house manufacturing operation to produce the specialist parts and electronic systems. The company also called on the skills of a number of its partners to provide additional complementary technical expertise and specialist components, such as wheels, brakes and lighting.

While P2 is a fully working car, Prodrive itself currently has no plans to put it into volume production. However, should a vehicle manufacturer approach the company to do so, it is expected that it would have a retail price of approximately £40,000.
ALS ? Anti-Lag System

The ALS on P2 is based on the system currently used on Prodrive?s Subaru World Rally Cars, but modified for use on the road.

In tests, it has been shown to double engine torque at low revs, enabling a test car to accelerate from 30 to 50 mph in the same time in third gear as it would without the system in second gear.

Turbo-charged engines tend to run with a rich fuel mixture and, as a result, some of this fuel remains unburnt and ends up in the exhaust. At low engine speeds, when turbo-lag is experienced, the anti-lag system can introduce ambient air into the red hot exhaust manifold causing this fuel to spontaneously combust. This increases the manifold pressure, spinning the turbo back onto boost. In the Subaru World Rally Car, this gives Petter Solberg instantaneous response throughout the Impreza?s rev range.

"Unfortunately, transferring the system to a road car was not as straightforward as it might seem," said Prodrive powertrain engineer, David Hemming. "In a World Rally Car, our drivers are either fully on or off the accelerator and not concerned about how smooth the power delivery is. For motorists this is definitely not the case and an unmodified system would provide an unacceptable driving experience."

Prodrive spent six months developing the system on an engine on a transient engine dynamometer at its Milton Keynes test facility. During this time engineers managed to achieve closed-loop control of the turbo boost and make it work in a road car application. The system is so refined that it can control the turbo speed to within one per cent at almost any engine revs.

"The system is not ready for production yet, but it has shown great potential. It will make P2 far more flexible to drive as without the turbo-lag you don?t have to drop down a gear to get the acceleration you want," said Hemming.

As well as enhancing the performance of turbo-charged cars, in the longer term it could provide a solution to the downsizing of engines in cars and so help improve fuel economy and reduce emissions.

"With an anti-lag system, you could in theory replace a normally aspirated, two litre engine with a turbo-charged one litre engine. This would typically reduce fuel consumption by about 25 per cent without any loss in performance," said Hemming.

Prodrive is already talking to a vehicle manufacturer about the application of this system.
ATD ? Active Torque Dynamics

P2 has been fitted with Prodrive?s ATD system. During the last five years, Prodrive has been developing this system and has already built 12 demonstrators for a variety of vehicle manufacturers for different applications on four, rear and front wheel drive cars, ranging from large SUVs to supercars.

The principle of ATD is to keep a vehicle going where the driver wants it to go, by modulating the torque at the road wheels using active differentials rather than applying the brakes, as is the case with stability systems such as ESP.

"Road cars are generally driven in the ?linear region? where a certain input to the steering wheel results in a corresponding cornering rate of the car," said Damian Harty, chief engineer, dynamics. "However, when something unexpected happens, drivers tend to apply more steering angle than the vehicle can actually follow (around 10 degrees at the roadwheels). The vehicle behaviour changes significantly and the car does not go where the driver wants. This change is enough to confuse many people at a critical moment and often leads to loss of control in emergency situations. ATD extends this ?linear? region, making the vehicle much more controllable in emergencies."

ATD uses data from wheel speed sensors (which can be shared with the antilock braking system), a yaw rate sensor and a steering wheel angle sensor to compare what the driver is requesting with what the vehicle is providing. If the driver is accelerating, or has some throttle applied, a torque can be applied to the appropriate wheel to counter oversteer or understeer. If they are braking, or off throttle, the system can be integrated with a conventional stability programme and brake the opposite wheel to enhance directional stability while reducing vehicle speed.

On P2, which is all wheel drive, the ATD system uses an active centre and active rear differential to modulate torque between the front and rear axles as well across the rear axle. Where appropriate, this allows the vehicle to enter a corner with the favourable dynamics of a rear-wheel drive car to minimise power understeer, then progressively increase torque to the front wheels as it moves around the corner. As the vehicle leaves the corner, the torque split can be biased towards the front wheels to provide maximum straightening force to help correct any oversteer or, alternatively, to help induce a powered drift.

With the active rear differential, P2 can also be given additional high speed stability for example in the event of an emergency lane change manoeuvre. By electronically controlling the lock on the rear differential, the car is provided with the agility to steer around an obstacle but then given added stability to help stop it spinning while returning to its path.

Harty says that the system has significant benefits compared with conventional brake-based stability programmes: "ATD is extremely responsive. It can predict the vehicle?s reaction to changes before it calculates the correction required, so can achieve the required wheel speed in around 70ms. Because it applies positive torque, working with the movement of the car, it also feels more natural, particularly to performance-orientated drivers. A brake-based stability system can not distinguish when a driver is deliberately pushing a car to its limits and when a driver really is in trouble. As a result, it has to always assume the driver is in trouble and so intervenes when driving hard so ruining the driving experience."

In addition to P2, Prodrive has two dedicated ATD demonstrators: an all wheel drive system, similar to the P2?s, on a Subaru Impreza and a front wheel drive system fitted to a Ford Focus RS which helps correct torque steer. Both are available for test drives.

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junta 200 mi bastano...
Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:25:06 am
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E' più bella del subaru Grin Grin Grin

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Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:25:42 am
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Lo devo dire? Lo diciamo?? E' orribile!!! Tongue

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Homer
Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:42:46 am
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non era facile fare una versione sportiva più brutta della berlina originale...ma qui si son impegnati!!! fa ancora più schifo esteticamente della Lancer!!! Tongue

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alura
Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:46:56 am
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Vabbe'... brutta e' brutta... ma cosa dev'essere da guidare ? Non ci sono i le misure, ma e' basata sul pianale della R1... non credo che sia piu' lunga delle Exige, per intenderci... pesa 1100 kg, 350 cv/tonnellata.. arriva a 280 km/h e 0-100 in meno di 4 secondi. La coppia e' di 575 Nm  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Dev'essere spaventosa da guidare.

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junta 200 mi bastano...
Gennaio 17, 2006, 11:47:21 am
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non era facile fare una versione sportiva più brutta della berlina originale...ma qui si son impegnati!!! fa ancora più schifo esteticamente della Lancer!!! Tongue

Peraltro andando forse meno della MR450 Tongue

Cmq a me questa piace... sarà che mi piace la lancer... non so ...

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coccosiffredi
Gennaio 17, 2006, 12:08:12 pm
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gnam gnam...pero se somigliasse meno al impreza...sarebbe ancora piu gnam gnam
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Miki Biasion
Gennaio 17, 2006, 12:35:41 pm
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Vabbe'... brutta e' brutta... ma cosa dev'essere da guidare ? Non ci sono i le misure, ma e' basata sul pianale della R1... non credo che sia piu' lunga delle Exige, per intenderci... pesa 1100 kg, 350 cv/tonnellata.. arriva a 280 km/h e 0-100 in meno di 4 secondi. La coppia e' di 575 Nm  Shocked Shocked Shocked

Dev'essere spaventosa da guidare.

Si si da guidare dev'essere fatale, l'importante è scendere dall'auto con gli occhi bendati Grin

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Gennaio 17, 2006, 12:49:06 pm
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Non capisco cosa ci faccia li' dentro lo "six speaker stereo system", visto che la ricerca del minimo peso dovrebbe essere prioritaria.

Mi sembra una cassata unique ...  Undecided

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